In my move towards complete open sharing of our genealogy I have posted Emily's album on our Facebook page, please have a look, and if you know anyone in the photo's please add a comment.
If you take any of the photos for your own collection please reference them and if you are adding to your genealogy database please source them correctly back to the Album or to here.
Researching our Australian family tree with branches tracing back to Cornwall, England, Scotland and Ireland including our convict past. Surnames include, Lucas, Pinkerton, McLauchlan, Paton, Miller, Mundy, Prisk, Melrose, Bray, Hodges, Leahy, Davis, Wilkinson, Schofield, Brown, Cleary and many others. Using 'genetic genealogy' (DNA) to prove the paper trail and move beyond it. (aka Aussie Rhonda's Genealogy).
Showing posts with label miller. Show all posts
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Sunday, 25 September 2016
Monday, 6 October 2014
A lesson in how 'Ancestry' and 'Shaky Leaves' can be very dangerous to the health of your family tree
Since Ancestry.com introduced the "Shaky Leaves" I have developed a love-hate relationship with them. If you use it to look up other tree's you are bound to find a lot, and I mean a LOT of misinformation, however, on the plus side if you use it to comb the site for sources, genuine real sources from Immigration, Convict or BDM Indexes and find what you need, it's a bonus and will help you grow your tree in the right direction.
To give you an example, today whilst searching any new documents for my GGG Grandfather George Robert Miller's marriages I had forgot to untick the 'Family trees', being curious I had a look to see who had him/them in their tree. I spotted one that had Mary Ann (Deliser) Miller with a place of birth as Kent, England, as far as I am aware no researcher to date has found her documented arrival to Australia or where she was born, if you have please reveal yourself! I was excited, WOW, then I looked again, and again. This tree had her being born in 1822, convicted in 1815 at Middlesex and marrying George Miller in 1833 (unsourced), interesting. Then I spot she has 2 George Miller's attached as her husband and some children are doubled up. Even more interesting, Mary is living back in Kent in 1851 after her death in 1849. Seriously scary misinformation, so I clicked on the "Member Connect" button to see that there are 11 other family tree's this person has gathered information from or is connected to. Oh boy, what a mess.
George is already a difficult person to sort out, see a previous post laying out the children and the names used for their mothers http://www.dixie9.com/2009/05/george-robert-miller-debate.html.
My lesson to you, PLEASE stop and research the information before adding it to your tree, just because it's on Ancestry does not mean it is correct. You can't just enter your name and have your family history revealed to you like the ads indicate, it's not that simple! The tree's on ancestry are the work of individual people that have gathered information over the years, some correct, some incorrect, some speculative. Make notes and source the information for yourself to prove in your own mind that the information is correct. The thing is, I can also understand how it happens, the sheer excitement of connecting the dots and thinking wow! and having a whole family line unfold right in front of your eyes. Just slow down, keep your tree private until you have sourced your information ie gathered the documents to prove the dates, and then when it's ready share your tree with the correct information.
Below is the family group sheet of Mary Ann (Deliser) Miller as mentioned above so you can see for yourself, the identity of the family tree has been removed.
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To give you an example, today whilst searching any new documents for my GGG Grandfather George Robert Miller's marriages I had forgot to untick the 'Family trees', being curious I had a look to see who had him/them in their tree. I spotted one that had Mary Ann (Deliser) Miller with a place of birth as Kent, England, as far as I am aware no researcher to date has found her documented arrival to Australia or where she was born, if you have please reveal yourself! I was excited, WOW, then I looked again, and again. This tree had her being born in 1822, convicted in 1815 at Middlesex and marrying George Miller in 1833 (unsourced), interesting. Then I spot she has 2 George Miller's attached as her husband and some children are doubled up. Even more interesting, Mary is living back in Kent in 1851 after her death in 1849. Seriously scary misinformation, so I clicked on the "Member Connect" button to see that there are 11 other family tree's this person has gathered information from or is connected to. Oh boy, what a mess.
George is already a difficult person to sort out, see a previous post laying out the children and the names used for their mothers http://www.dixie9.com/2009/05/george-robert-miller-debate.html.
My lesson to you, PLEASE stop and research the information before adding it to your tree, just because it's on Ancestry does not mean it is correct. You can't just enter your name and have your family history revealed to you like the ads indicate, it's not that simple! The tree's on ancestry are the work of individual people that have gathered information over the years, some correct, some incorrect, some speculative. Make notes and source the information for yourself to prove in your own mind that the information is correct. The thing is, I can also understand how it happens, the sheer excitement of connecting the dots and thinking wow! and having a whole family line unfold right in front of your eyes. Just slow down, keep your tree private until you have sourced your information ie gathered the documents to prove the dates, and then when it's ready share your tree with the correct information.
Below is the family group sheet of Mary Ann (Deliser) Miller as mentioned above so you can see for yourself, the identity of the family tree has been removed.
Here is the family according to current research, as I have it recorded:
updated live from WikiTree
Sunday, 5 October 2014
Henry Hilliard Miller (1854, Moruya, NSW - 1916, Bingara, NSW)
Henry Miller, son of George Robert Miller and Mary Ann Jones. Profile now available on WikiTree, 'open' status, so if you are a descendant please feel free to add or embellish on the information there.
Family Finder DNA testers listed to compare DNA.
Family Finder DNA testers listed to compare DNA.
embeddable family tree updated live from WikiTree
Wednesday, 1 October 2014
Emily May Davis (Scobie/Miller) 1895, Tamworth, NSW - 1967, Fremantle, NSW
Emily May Davis married James Warren Scobie then Charles Miller, her profile is now up on WikiTree.
Still have a brick wall on her paternal grandparents George Davis and Fanny Jones, hopefully the DNA will help knock it down. Emily's line through these grandparents is on Peggy's X Chromosome. See further down the page for this chart.
(24 Jun 1908 - 07 Apr 1966)
50% — Ada Mary Hamilton (17 Mar 1881 - 12 Dec 1952)
25% John Adam Hamilton (abt 1844 - 01 Mar 1888)
25% — [G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — [G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
12.5% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — [G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
25% — Matilda Fritchley (29 Oct 1857 - 12 Jan 1935)
12.5% — Richard Fisher Fritchley (01 May 1813 - 19 Jun 1897)
12.5% — Anne Newton ( - )
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — Winifred Burke (abt 1823 - 17 Sep 1897)
6.25% — Patrick Burke ( - )
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — Mary Ward ( - )
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
50% — Cecilia Miller (02 Feb 1920 - 01 Aug 1959)
25% — Charlie Miller (27 Jul 1894 - 10 Oct 1949)
25% — Mary Jane Melrose (22 Apr 1860 - 28 Apr 1935)
12.5% — George Melrose (19 Dec 1829 - 18 Aug 1903)
12.5% — Mary Ann Irvine (abt 1811 - 07 Aug 1866)
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — Jane Schofield (14 Mar 1830 - 01 Apr 1885)
6.25% — William Schofield ( - )
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — Betty Wilkinson ( - )
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
25% — Emily May Davis (14 Sep 1895 - 01 Jan 1967)
12.5% — John Charles Davis (abt 1844 - 25 Dec 1913)
12.5% — Fanny Jones ( - )
6.25% — [G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — Zenobia Mundy (abt 29 Jun 1858 - 15 Mar 1912)
6.25% — Peter Mundy (abt 1811 - 10 Dec 1887)
6.25% — Ann George ( - )
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — Jane Prisk (25 Jun 1823 - 20 Aug 1892)
3.125% — Thomas Prisk (abt 1779 - )
3.125% — Mary Johns ( - )
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — Mary Andrew (abt 1789 - )
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — Mary Andrew ( - )
.78125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
.78125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
Still have a brick wall on her paternal grandparents George Davis and Fanny Jones, hopefully the DNA will help knock it down. Emily's line through these grandparents is on Peggy's X Chromosome. See further down the page for this chart.
embeddable family tree updated live from WikiTree
X-Chromosome
Males inherit one X-chromosome from their mother. Females inherit one X-chromosome from their mother and one X-chromosome from their father. Here are seven generations of ancestors who could have contributed to Peggy's X-chromosome and their approximate average percentage of contribution. These are adapted from Blaine Bettinger's X-DNA charts.
50% — Patrick John Cummins (24 Jun 1908 - 07 Apr 1966) 50% — Ada Mary Hamilton
(17 Mar 1881 - 12 Dec 1952) 25% John Adam Hamilton
(abt 1844 - 01 Mar 1888) 25% — [G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — [G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
12.5% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — [G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
25% — Matilda Fritchley
(29 Oct 1857 - 12 Jan 1935) 12.5% — Richard Fisher Fritchley
(01 May 1813 - 19 Jun 1897) 12.5% — Anne Newton
( - ) 6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — Winifred Burke
(abt 1823 - 17 Sep 1897) 6.25% — Patrick Burke
( - ) 6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — Mary Ward
( - ) 3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
50% — Cecilia Miller
(02 Feb 1920 - 01 Aug 1959) 25% — Charlie Miller
(27 Jul 1894 - 10 Oct 1949) 25% — Mary Jane Melrose
(22 Apr 1860 - 28 Apr 1935) 12.5% — George Melrose
(19 Dec 1829 - 18 Aug 1903) 12.5% — Mary Ann Irvine
(abt 1811 - 07 Aug 1866) 6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — Jane Schofield
(14 Mar 1830 - 01 Apr 1885) 6.25% — William Schofield
( - ) 6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — Betty Wilkinson
( - ) 3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
25% — Emily May Davis
(14 Sep 1895 - 01 Jan 1967) 12.5% — John Charles Davis
(abt 1844 - 25 Dec 1913) 12.5% — Fanny Jones
( - ) 6.25% — [G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — [G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
12.5% — Zenobia Mundy
(abt 29 Jun 1858 - 15 Mar 1912) 6.25% — Peter Mundy
(abt 1811 - 10 Dec 1887) 6.25% — Ann George
( - ) 3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — [G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
6.25% — Jane Prisk
(25 Jun 1823 - 20 Aug 1892) 3.125% — Thomas Prisk
(abt 1779 - ) 3.125% — Mary Johns
( - ) 1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
3.125% — Mary Andrew
(abt 1789 - ) 1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
1.5625% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
1.5625% — Mary Andrew
( - ) .78125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandfather Unknown]
.78125% — [G-G-G-G-G-Grandmother Unknown]
Tuesday, 30 September 2014
Charlie 'Charles' Miller 1894, Bingara, NSW - 1949, Fremantle, WA
Pop on over to Charles Miller's profile at WikiTree, his biography is now complete, if you have information to add, please leave a comment on his page or if you have photo's please share and add them. How fantastic, 5 DNA connections, we have an awesome family, thank you!
At times like this when I complete a profile, I feel total awe that we started out with Mum's parents names only and total magnificent appreciation in being able to get to know this family as though we really did meet them and know them is nothing short of miraculous, thank you to all the family along the way that have shared the history to bring this to fruition. This is as much for you as us, Rhonda and Peggy x
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Miller-4156
At times like this when I complete a profile, I feel total awe that we started out with Mum's parents names only and total magnificent appreciation in being able to get to know this family as though we really did meet them and know them is nothing short of miraculous, thank you to all the family along the way that have shared the history to bring this to fruition. This is as much for you as us, Rhonda and Peggy x
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Miller-4156
embeddable family tree updated live from WikiTree
Sunday, 21 September 2014
Mitochondrial DNA T1 confirmed by second descendant test
Update on Peggy's and my own mitochondrial DNA, I elected to add the mtDNA plus test to Peggy's autosomal kit at FTDNA and the results are in, it's confirmed T1, one day I will upgrade further to the FMS (mtFullSequence), but for now because we have both been tested at 23andme.com as T1a1 I don't feel the need. This has also been confirmed with my 3C1R Amanda Bortolussi who is downline of Zenobia Mundy through another daughter Elizabeth Ann Davis taking a 23andme test and coming back with T1a1. Amanda has also joined us on WikiTree and has connected with our tree and is growing hers, fantastic to have you onboard Amanda.
Below is a chart of our mitochondrial DNA lineage:
Would love to connect with other descendant's of these women! Add a comment or drop us a line.
Below is a chart of our mitochondrial DNA lineage:
updated live from WikiTree
Would love to connect with other descendant's of these women! Add a comment or drop us a line.
Sunday, 31 August 2014
George Melrose & Jane Schofield
George Melrose was a Sapper & Miner with the Royal Engineers.
George MELROSE and Jane SCHOFIELD sailed from Plymouth, UK on 9 August 1852 and after being at sea for 122 days arrived in Tasmania, Australia on 9 December 1852. George was a Sapper & Miner of the Royal Engineers. Later the family moved to Sydney and George became a licensed Surveyor.
This maternal Melrose branch has been transplanted to Aussie soil for 7 generations so far.
This Melrose history is a collaboration of work compiled by Tim Carter, Susan Channell, Sandy Liddle, Peggy Lucas and myself.
Friday, 29 August 2014
Searching for descendants of George Robert Miller and Mary Ann Lynch to do a DNA test
You may be aware I am not only passionate about genealogy but also genetic genealogy, which is utilising DNA (spit) to prove the paper trail we have been working on for years.
I would love a willing descendant of George Robert Miller, b: 13 May 1813, Middlesex, Lon, Eng, d: 23 Oct 1883, Bingara, NSW, Aus and Mary Ann Lynch b: abt 1822, d: 20 Feb 1849, Singleton, NSW, Aus to step forward and do a DNA test to PROVE once and for all that the George Robert Miller married to Mary Ann Lynch is the same George Robert Miller that married my 3rd Great Grandmother Mary Ann Jones. By choosing to do a Family Finder test from Family Tree DNA or 23andme (my DNA is at both) we will see if we have common DNA and bingo, the proof will be in the pudding, so to speak. Look forward to hearing from you and am happy to help you through the process.
Click on the chart below to see if you descend from this couple.
If the image isn't big enough, please contact me and I'll send you a pdf.
I would love a willing descendant of George Robert Miller, b: 13 May 1813, Middlesex, Lon, Eng, d: 23 Oct 1883, Bingara, NSW, Aus and Mary Ann Lynch b: abt 1822, d: 20 Feb 1849, Singleton, NSW, Aus to step forward and do a DNA test to PROVE once and for all that the George Robert Miller married to Mary Ann Lynch is the same George Robert Miller that married my 3rd Great Grandmother Mary Ann Jones. By choosing to do a Family Finder test from Family Tree DNA or 23andme (my DNA is at both) we will see if we have common DNA and bingo, the proof will be in the pudding, so to speak. Look forward to hearing from you and am happy to help you through the process.
Click on the chart below to see if you descend from this couple.
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| Click to see a larger image |
If the image isn't big enough, please contact me and I'll send you a pdf.
Wednesday, 15 January 2014
Unidentified Photo #0131 - Family, Mum, Dad & Girl - Wishful Wednesday
Photo #0131 from Emily May Miller nee Davis' photo album.
Are you able to assist in identifying this family?
On the back of the photo is written Emily,
but I think Emily has done that herself to identify it as her photo.
It's interesting that there is an extra hand on the left shoulder (looking at the picture)
and the person has been left off in the printing.
Unidentified Photo #0134 - 3 Gents - Wishful Wednesday
Photo #0134 from Emily May Miller nee Davis' photo album.
Can you help identify these gents?
I am 'wishfully' hoping this unidentified photo is of John Charles Davis with 2 of his sons.
Are you able to assist?
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